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Department of Human Services
Oregon Medical Marijuana Program
Advisory Committee on Medical Marijuana
Monday, October 23, 2006
Portland State Office Building (PSOB)
800 NE Oregon Street
Portland, OR 97232
10:00 am – 2:30 pm
The Oregon Medical Marijuana Program (OMMP) Advisory
Committee on Medical Marijuana (ACMM) provides an opportunity for the public to
discuss administrative issues with the OMMP management.
Meeting called to order at 10:05 am.
WELCOME AND INTRODUCTIONS
Ms. Burbank commenced the Special Hearing meeting with introduction to the ACMM committee members: Jim Klahr; Laird Funk; Leland Berger; Sandee Burbank, Vice Chair of ACMM; Madeline Martinez; Chris Iverson, John Sajo; Dr. Darryl George, DO; Stormy Ray
HANDOUTS:
ACMM Order of Business
SUBCOMMITTEE SET-UP
·
Ms. Martinez motioned
for a sub-committee to be created to work with Law Enforcement regarding Senate
Bill 1085. The sub-committee would be
meeting with Lt. Dingeman on Law Enforcement interpretation. Mr. Funk seconded the motion.
·
Mr. Funk discussed his
concerns regarding the omission of excess plants being taken by Law
Enforcement.
·
Mr. Berger would like to
invite Jennifer Lloyd, Assistant Attorney General (AAG) and Lt. Dingeman to the
meeting in December. The idea would be
for a collaborative group meeting with Lt. Dingeman rather than an ACMM formal
meeting.
·
Ms. Ray would like
clarification on the role of the sub-committee and what the creation of the sub-committee
is for. The application packet already
includes the rules and statutes; everyone is aware of the procedures including
Law Enforcement and is positive that the OMMP may already have in place a
policy or procedure.
·
Ms. Salsbury states that
it is the advisory committee’s responsibility to advise the program, formally
the department, because it must go through certain channels before any
paperwork goes out to the public.
·
Mr. Iverson agrees with
Ms. Ray to filter paperwork, public paperwork that goes out to patients,
caregivers, and growers. Ms. Ray states
that whatever avenue the committee takes, it should all be treated the same.
·
Motioned passed with a
majority vote from the committee members.
Volunteers selected for the sub-committee is Sandee Burbank, Leeland
Berger, Madeline Martinez, and Stormy Ray which will also include the filtering
of all application materials.
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE (DOJ) LETTER
·
Mr. Funk would like to
address the DOJ letter regarding medical marijuana and the issues of organized
crimes and trafficking of marijuana.
Mr. Funk submitted a letter of clarification to DOJ as well as
requesting for evidences of the claims mentioned in the letter.
·
Mr. Funk would like for
the committee to formulate a letter to DOJ to not only support the claims made
but to also answer some questions regarding the claims.
·
Mr. Berger motioned to
collaborate online a letter to DOJ to ask for explanations of their claims as
well as having them oblige to respond according to the rules and statutes. Mr. Funk seconded the motion.
DISCUSSIONS
·
Ms. Ray stated that
before a letter is sent out to DOJ, she would like a preface letter to
introduce the ACMM, to legitimize that the ACMM exists and what the ACMM exists
for since it is a newly formed committee.
·
Mr. Berger stated that
Ms. Ray could probably write the letter of introduction regarding the ACMM, Mr.
Funk would address the letter of complaint, and Mr. Berger himself would
complete the letter with a reminder that DOJ is obligated to respond to the
letter in a timely manner. The letter
would be drafted and completed online and edited by the committee members
online before it gets sent out.
·
Dr. George would like to
know if the introduction of the ACMM to the public is still in the planning
process or has the planning stopped.
Ms. Salsbury will talk to Dr. Higginson to discuss where the planning of
the introduction is heading.
·
Motion passed with a
majority vote from the committee members.
ACMM WORK SESSION
PATIENT HANDBOOK
HANDOUTS: Preface to Patient Handbook, Preface to Patient
Handbook with suggested modifications, Patient Handbook draft
Preface to Patient Handbook
·
Mr. Berger would like to
address the issues to the preface of the Patient Handbook first, with a
consensus to accept Ms. Martinez’s changes, but leave Mr. Berger’s wording.
·
Dr. George requested to
add that patients are not protected under federal property where Mr. Iverson
suggested for examples of what federal properties are to be included. The committee member’s general consensus is
to leave it stated as federal property without examples to avoid specifics.
·
Ms. Ray opposes the
setup of the handbook and would like to start from the beginning, creating a
committee with the original motives of the ACMM to include questions and
concerns from the patient rather than what the ACMM thinks are questions
patients, caregivers, or growers have.
Ms. Burbank motioned to move forward.
·
All changes for the
preface to the handbook are accepted with the exception of the third deletion
from the top, it will remain as part of the handbook and for the addition of “,
or federal property” to the ending sentence of the third line from the bottom.
·
Mr. Berger motioned to
accept changes to the preface, motioned passed with a majority vote.
Patient Handbook
·
Ms. Burbank suggested
for the first two lines to be moved to the end of the handbook, motioned passed
with a majority vote, one opposition.
·
Mr. Klahr would like to
know whether or not it is legal to place names in the handbook if it’s
government-funded. Ms. Silverwolf in
turn stated that she holds the copyrights to the handbook and has no issue with
the inclusion of her name. Mr. Berger
would like for the program to meet with the AAG to ensure what can and cannot
be included in the handbook.
·
Mr. Berger motioned to move
forward with the first two lines placed at the end of the handbook until the
legality issue can be determined, motioned passed with a majority vote.
ACMM work session adjourned by Ms.
Burbank for morning break at 11:05 am.
Meeting called to order by Ms. Burbank at 11:15 am.
ACMM Work Session on Patient Handbook continue.
WHO IS ELGIBLE FOR THE OREGON
MEDICAL MARIJUANA PROGRAM?
·
Dr. George would like to
know how the handbook will educate patients on the medical conditions and what
each medical condition is described as.
He would like for each of the conditions to be explained as well as what
symptoms constitute a qualifying medical condition since chronic is defined as
a length of time in duration while severe is a level of pain.
·
It wad decided that it
would be up to the doctor’s discretion to decide on what qualifies as meeting
the medical condition.
·
Mr. Funk understands the
issue of obsolete diagnosis and would like to suggest for “current” to be
included in the sentence. Majority
consensus to add “current” to line 4, page 1 regarding diagnosis.
·
Mr. Berger motioned to
modify line 6, page 1 by inserting “qualifying” in front of debilitating rather
than following after “condition,” motion passed with general consensus.
·
Ms. Berger motioned for
“or treatment…” following “HIV/AIDS” to be moved to the following line,
motioned passed with general consensus.
·
Part of line 29, page 1
through line 32, was accepted without modification by the Committee.
·
Mr. Berger motioned for
lines 33 and 34, page 1 to be written as what is stated in the statutes with
the suggestion by Ms. Burbank to state “patient is under eighteen (18) years of
age…” rather than minor, motion passed with general consensus.
·
Mr. Berger motioned for
OMMP to be listed after DHS, the inclusion of the program’s website by Ms.
Martinez for lines 35 and 36, page 1, and the phone number was changed to
reflect the proper last four digits, motion passed with general consensus along
with the rest of this section.
WHAT IS THE FEE TO REGISTER?
·
Ms. Ray motioned for
lines 1 and 2, page 2 to properly reflect the language of the application fee
with Mr. Berger’s suggestion to remove “adjustment” and replace it with
“change,” motion passed with general consent along with the rest of this
section.
WHAT ROLE DOES MY DOCTOR
PLAY?
·
Ms. Burbank motioned to
align line 7, page 2 with what was mentioned earlier on line 9, page 1 and to
add “current” before “qualifying,” motioned passed with general consensus.
·
Ms. Burbank motioned to
accept the changes as is from lines 9 through 11, page 2 with Mr. Berger’s
suggestions to modify lines 12 and 13, page 2 to clarify what a current
Attending Physician Statement (APS) is, motions passed with general consent.
·
Lines 14 though 16, page
2 accepted without changes.
·
The rest of this section
was approved and passed with general consent.
WHAT IF MY DOCTOR WON’T HELP
ME?
·
Ms. Burbank motioned to
modify lines 19 through 21, page 2 to clarify when a physician is unwilling to
sign with Ms. Martinez’s suggestion to insert the OMMP website after the
federal court case, motion passed with general consent.
·
The rest of page 2
accepted without other changes, lines 2 through 4, page 3 accepted without
changes.
ACMM work session adjourned by Ms.
Burbank for lunch at 1:04 pm.
Meeting called to order by Ms. Burbank at 2:09 pm.
ACMM Work Session on Patient Handbook continue.
DO I NEED A CAREGIVER OR
OTHER DESIGNATED PERSON TO GROW MY MEDICINE?
·
Part of line 16 through
line18, page 3 was removed and placed under the Patients, Caregivers and
Growers’ Rights and Responsibilities section, placed before “Patients are
cautioned…”
·
Part of line 1 through
line 8, page 4 was removed and placed under the Patients, Caregivers and
Growers’ Rights and Responsibilities section before “It is important to have…”
regarding discussion between the patient, caregiver and/or grower.
·
The recommended changes
for this section were accepted through general consent with the clarification
of Class A or Class B drug related felony regarding convictions with “your”
changed to “their” on line 15, page 3.
PATIENTS, CAREGIVERS AND
GROWERS RIGHTS AND RESPONSIBILITIES
·
At the request of Dr.
George, clarification was stated that all parts of the marijuana plants is the
patient’s property and can be returned to the patient at his/her request,
request was granted and placed before “It is important to have a clear
understanding…”
·
Regarding the marijuana
grow site and the limitations of how many patients was clarified between the
patient, caregiver, and grower.
·
Lines 18 through 21 were
suggested by Ms. Burbank to be placed at the beginning of the section before “A
Caregiver is not limited…” to supplement the importance of communication,
passed with general consent.
·
Lines 12 and 13, page 4
was motioned to be two different questions, line 14 was modified to reflect the
statutes wordings, line 15 was removed, line 16 was suggested to include
“back-up plans.”
·
The rest of this section
was approved and passed through general consent.
LEGL REQUIREMETNS FOR
CARDHOLDERS AND GARDENS
·
Lines 23 through 25, page
4 and lines 1 and 2, page 5 accepted without changes.
·
Mr. Iverson motioned to
add clarification that the grower is also protected when possessing and
transporting the medicine with an explanation from Ms. Salsbury that the old
caregiver and grower cards must be returned when a patient changes it from one
person to another. Ms. Burbank
suggested for the placard to be included, motion passed with general consent.
·
Mr. Iverson suggest for
“the patient” to be bolded, suggestion accepted. Due to repetition, lines 11 through 15, page 5 was removed is
replaced by lines 25 and 26, page 5 to lines 1 through 7, page 6. Changes were accepted without further
changes with the exception that Ms. Ray will be adding additional wordings to
this particular section regarding networking.
·
At the suggestion of Mr.
Iverson, “collectively possess” has been bolded with Mr. Berger’s addition to
note that medicine can only be grown at the registered address, motion passed
with general consent.
·
The rest of this section
was approved and passed with general consent.
WHERE CAN I USE MY
MEDICATION?
·
Part of lines 15 through
17 was removed through general consent; the committee felt it was not necessary
to place it in the handbook.
DISCUSSION
·
Dr. George would like
clarification in the handbook that just because a caregiver or grower is
protected with a card to possess and transport the medicine, does not mean that
the law protects them from using and selling the patient’s medicine.
·
Mr. Berger clarified
that a person cannot be prosecuted for using marijuana. A person can be prosecuted for possessing,
cultivating or distributing marijuana but not for using since the law protects
only the patient to use marijuana. The
medicine belongs to the patient and cannot be wrongly used in anyway without
the patient’s permission.
·
Mr. Iverson stated that
it is not our position (ACMM) to tell caregivers or persons responsible for a
grow site that they can or cannot medicate. He would like for it to state that
the medicine belongs to the patient and then let them work it out. Mr. Iverson
states that his patients would love for him to medicate because they know he
needs the medicine, but he doesn't have a card. He does not want to be told by
you (ACMM) or anyone else that he can't medicate. No further changes were
made, this section passed with majority consent.
IF I AM UNABLE TO GROW MY
OWN, HOW CAN I GET MEDICINE?
·
Mr. Klahr would like
language clarification to reflect “sources” rather than “markets” with the
suggestion from Ms. Ray to change “cardholders” to “patients” with emphasis
from Mr. Berger regarding quantity limitations when sharing or delivering
regarding lines 12 through 18, page 6, motion passed through general consent
along with the rest of this section.
HOW DO I INTERACT WITH MY
LANDLORD?
·
This section was
approved with no further changes or modifications through general consent.
HOW
DO I INTERACT WITH THE POLICE?
·
Ms. Burbank motioned for
the removal of “or pending application” since the Program gives only ‘yes’ or
‘no’ answers. Lines 6 through 11 passed
with general consent.
·
Ms. Burbank motioned for
language specification regarding police inquiry of the home or grow site
address with Mr. Iverson’s suggestion to add “medicine” before “seedlings,”
lines 12 through 16 passed with general consent.
·
Lines 17 through 22
accepted with no further changes, passed with general consent.
PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENTS AND COMMENTS
·
Charles Ping would like
for the committee to know that he will be attending all the scheduled hearings.
·
Kareem (?) would like to
suggest that there be some kind of a donation center so that teenage plants are
available for patients or growers who are not great growers. Would like for training availability for Law
Enforcement Officers due to poor communication and risk for patients, caregivers,
and growers. Would like to nominate
Alice Ivany or Bryan Michaels to the ACMM vacancy position and is encouraging
people to vote.
·
Lou Wale (?) would like
for the committee to consider disabled veterans for the $20.00 reduced fee as
well. Feels that it is unfair that only
individuals who qualify for the two programs to get the reduced fee since it is
a financial hardship for veterans.
Meeting adjourned at 3:08pm.
Respectfully submitted by Choua Vue.
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